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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Resource Capital Corp. Earnings Conference Call for the three months and year ended December 31, 2010. My name is Coretha, and I'll be your coordinator for today.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Jonathan Cohen, President and CEO of Resource Capital Corp. Please proceed.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Thank you for joining the Resource Capital Corp. Conference Call for the fourth quarter and year ended 2010. I am Jonathan Cohen, President and CEO of Resource Capital Corp. Before I begin, I would like to ask Purvi Kamdar, our Director of Investor Relations, to read the Safe Harbor statement.

  • Purvi Kamdar - Director - IR

  • Thank you, Jonathan. When used in this conference call, the words -- believe, anticipate, expect, and similar expressions, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Although, the company believes that these forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from these contained in the forward-looking statements.

  • These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the Company's reports filed with the SEC, including its reports on Forms 8-K, 10-Q, and 10-K, and in particular item 1A on the Form 10-K report under the title Risk Factors. Listeners are cautioned, not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. The company undertakes no obligations to update any of these forward-looking statements. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Jonathan.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Purvi. First, a few highlights, for the three and year ended December 31, 2010. We had adjusted net income of $0.33 and $1.15 per share diluted respectively, as compared to the three months and year ended December 31, 2009 of $0.36 and $1.45.

  • Estimated REIT taxable income for the three months and year ended December 31, 2010 was $0.14 per share diluted and $0.85 per share diluted respectively, as compared to $0.34 and $1.23 for the three months and year ended December 31, 2009. We announced a dividend of $0.25 per common share for the quarter ended December 31, 2010 for $14.6 million in aggregate, which was paid on January 26, 2011 to stockholders of record. Book value was $5.99 for common share as of December 31, 2010.

  • With those highlights out of the way, I will now introduce my colleagues. With me today are, Dave Bloom, Senior Vice President in charge of Real Estate Lending; and David Bryant, our Chief Financial Officer; as well as Purvi Kamdar, our Director of Investor Relations.

  • The fourth quarter and fiscal year 2010 saw great improvement in our outlook for Resource Capital. As demonstrated by our adjusted net income, we earned $0.33 for the quarter, over 30% more than our $0.25 dividend. We made significant investments and restarted our commercial mortgage origination platform.

  • While we expanded greatly our commercial finance operations and our syndicated bank loan business, we continue to shrink our exposure to legacy real estate loans, with payoffs and sales on a combined $112 million of commercial real estate loans from the troubled period -- those originated during the troubled period of 2006, 2007, almost all of these subordinate loans.

  • We started to reinvest these dollars and are seeing a marked increase in net interest income. With these result and with our new investments, I reiterate, as I have before, that we are dedicated to a $1 divided -- $1 cash dividend for 2011 calendar year. We, as managers and shareholders, are working hard to build a company that can both pay a substantial dividend and increase shareholder value by building and growing business platforms.

  • During the fourth quarter, we took the opportunity to sell two large subordinate loan Legacy positions, continuing our reduction -- our reducing exposure to the bonds of the financial crisis. Although we believed that these loans would be collectable, they were subordinate to much larger loans and exposed us to potential binary risk. So we considered it prudent to pare back those positions and focus our capital on new investments.

  • In doing so, we took a loss of $14 million, but maintained a book value within 1% of where we -- where it was last quarter. We also added general reserves of $2 million and have approximately $11 million balance in general reserve at year end. Dave Bryant, will comment more about this, as we move forward from here. But in general on credit, we see a stable and improving situation.

  • The fourth quarter of 2010 was marked by many positive events, including the following -- first, we earned $0.33 of adjusted net income. Far in excess of our $0.25 dividend and did this with over $200 million, yes, $200 million of cash on hand to invest. We lowered our exposure to legacy real estate risk substantially, through the sale of $39 million of subordinate possessions. Third, we continue to maintain significant liquidity.

  • Fourth, and in the quarter -- in the first quarter of 2011, we made new investments of over $60 million into commercial real estate loans, our syndicated bank loan business and commercial finance, all areas where we were able to achieve pretax projected returns of 12% to 25% on new dollars invested. And finally, number five. We put into overdrive, our newly restarted commercial business and have started to put out the mass of cash balances, we have been carrying those a lot -- a year or two.

  • In my opinion, while doing this reshuffling, we have ended up with a much improved company, more stable and able to seize more upside -- upside. Going forward we will focus on extending our real estate lending operation significantly. Finding new investments in syndicated bank loans and finally building franchise value at our commercial finance business. Now, I will ask Dave Bloom, to review our real estate activities. Dave?

  • David Bloom - SVP - Real Estate Investments

  • Thanks, Jonathan. Resource Capital Corp's commercial mortgage portfolio has a current committed balance of approximately $664 million in a granular pool of 42 individual loans. Our portfolio of commercial mortgage possessions is in -- is in components as follows -- 73% whole loans, 18% mezzanine loans, and 9% B-notes.

  • The collateral base underlying the portfolio continues to be spread across the major asset categories in geographically diverse markets, with a portfolio breakdown of 30% multifamily, 15% office, 31% hotel, 14% retail, and 9% others, such as self-storage and industrial.

  • During the fourth quarter through today, we have closed three loans that total approximately $25 million, and we have another two loans of approximately $31 million that are approved and in the closing process for a total of $56 million of aggregate new loan production.

  • We have seen both sale and financing transaction volumes increasing, and liquidity returning to the market, and we continue to experience payoffs in our portfolio. Since the last quarter, we have taken advantage of liquidity returning to all segments of the market, including the subordinate debt sector, and we sold two mezzanine positions in very complex multi-party debt structures that were originated while we were fully establishing our whole loan platform. The ability -- the ability to sell out of these mezzanine positions adds to the equity that we have to deploy into new whole loans and situation where we were the sole lender.

  • Our portfolio for commercial real estate loans continues to be current and while we have modified a number of loans across the portfolio; in every instance our goal is to work with the borrower to provide adequate time, to see their business plan through, and reach a capital event that will payoff our loan.

  • As the debt markets continue to heal, we're seeing significant -- a significant increase in financing activity from banks, insurance companies and reconstituted CMBS programs. The debt capital markets are returning and we're again seeing situations where multiple lenders are competing for the same loans.

  • The steadily increasing flow of real estate finance capital is obviously a positive sign for the market in general, and for our portfolio in specific, as we see a number of our portfolio properties readying for kick-out financings. RSO benefits from our focus and expertise in directly originating loans between approximately $10 million and $20 million. And even though there are a number of capital sources in the market to make new loans, the vast majority are looking to make larger loans. We have an extensive pipeline of deals and are looking to convert select opportunities to loans for our portfolio.

  • We are actively sourcing new deals and are seeing opportunities to originate new loans at post-crisis valuations, premium spreads and optimal structure. There are hundreds of millions of dollars of loans coming due, and not enough debt providers to address the total finance demand, as properties trade, or as existing owners commit new capital to existing situations and seek refinancing.

  • In addition, there are numerous discounted payoff and REO situations that require financing at a new and much lower basis. We have fully established origination, asset management and servicing teams, and infrastructure in place. As the outflow continues to build, we are poised to take advantage of opportunities for well-structured transactions and premium spreads in today's market; and to match our production levels with our existing financing facilities and capital availability.

  • Having kept our platform intact during the pullback in lending over the last few years, provides a distinct advantage, as we have, again, commenced our new origination efforts. Our borrowers and intermediary community are extremely familiar with RSO as a capital provider; and our key professionals have remained in the market representing RSO's lending platform. This continuity is a unique and distinguishing feature, and provides the market with a proven platform. This has closed in excess of $1.5 billion of loans.

  • Our direct origination platform operates on a nationwide basis and is of significant note to our business model. We are not dependent on CMBS or secondary loan trading market, because we originate for our own balance sheet. Our self-originated whole loans are structured to provide maximum protections of principal, with debt service coverage minimum, loan to value maximum, and in many instances, elements of borrower recourse and other credit enhancements.

  • RSO will benefit from loan repayments in select additional loan sales, as we reinvest wealth-structured higher yielding assets into our long term locked-in financing vehicles. With that, I'll turn it back to Jonathan who will rejoin for Q&A.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Dave. Now I would like to review our investment in commercial sales and finance, and then speak about -- more about the syndicated bank loan business. As of December 31, 2010 in the commercial finance business we had $109 million of leasing and loan assets in our portfolio. In January, we transformed this investment into a new one, and now we own our interest through a joint venture we formed with LEAF Financial and Guggenheim Securities.

  • We held $29 million of subordinate debt which receives a 10% coupon per year. We also have warrants to purchase 48% of the business at a nominal price. These warrants give us the upside we are looking for to build book value eventually, for a while the coupon gives us the ability to generate a nice current return.

  • We are very excited about this investment, as we believe that as the economy recovers, the opportunities for scalable financial businesses are great. We have had many long-standing vendor relationships that provide steady access to high quality leasees, diversified across many geographies and industries and equipment types.

  • REIT management has experience, knowledge, and the Company has a scalable platform that can really grow as the economy expands. This can be a -- this can be big for us, and we can earn a nice coupon while we wait. As far as syndicated bank loan business, we augmented our nine -- approximately $900 million bank loan asset portfolio, that bind Churchill Pacific Asset Management, CPAM, for approximately $22 million, which we have renamed Resource Capital Asset Management.

  • This investment of $22 million should earn a pretax IR of 25% compounded. Here we are getting paid to manage similar assets, as we already owned, and leverage our knowledge of the assets we owned and the system and people of Resource America, our Manager.

  • We are so -- we are so far extremely pleased and look forward to more opportunities like this to partner with Apidos Capital and its team that have been managing our bank loan assets very successfully since Resource Capital's 144 offering in 2005.

  • I will now give you some statistics on our corporate bank loan -- syndicated bank loan portfolio. As I stated earlier, we have syndicated bank loans of approximately $890 million in amortized cost encompassing over 30 industries. Our top industries are Healthcare 10.7%, Diversified 9.0%, Broadcasting and Entertainment 7.8%, Printing and Publishing 5.5%, and Retail stores 5.2%.

  • As of the end of December, our average loan asset yield, 2.94% over LIBOR and our liabilities are still costing us 47 basis points over LIBOR. This continues to be a tremendous investment for us. Now I will ask Dave Bryant, our Chief Financial Officer, to walk us through the financials.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • Thank you, Jonathan. Our estimated REIT taxable income for the fourth quarter was $7.6 million or $0.14 per common share diluted. RSO's Board declared a cash dividend for the fourth quarter of $0.25 per common share, a total of $14.6 million. This brings our year-to-date results to $40.7 million of REIT income or $0.85 per common share, with a dividend of $1 for a payout ratio of 117%. On our 2010 adjusted net income of $1.15, we had a payout ratio of 87%. Of course, we paid all of our 2010 dividends in cash.

  • At December 31, 2010, RCC's investment portfolio was financed with approximately $1.5 billion of total indebtedness that included $1.4 billion of CDO senior notes, approximately $95 million of leased equipment-backed securitized notes, and $51.5 million sourced from our unsecured junior subordinated debentures related to our two Trust issuances in 2006.

  • We ended the period with $348.3 million in book equity. RCC's borrowings of $1.5 billion had a weighted average interest rate of 1.3% at December 31, 2010, a continued reflection of very low interest rates. Our investment portfolio remains completely match-funded by long term borrowings at year-end.

  • We continue to pass all of the critical interest coverage and over-collateralization tests in our two real estate CDOs and three bank-loan CLOs through February of this year. Each of these structures continue to perform and generate -- generated a stable cash flow to RCC in 2010. CRE CDOs produced over $24 million, and bank-loan CLOs generated over $22 million of cash flow for the year ended December 31.

  • Of note, as of February 28th, we have in excess of $195 million in investable cash comprised of approximately $71 million and over a $124 million in our bank loans and real estate deals respectively. This cash is available for reinvestment in these CLOs and CDOs to build collateral, and more importantly, generate generous spreads over the cost of the associated debt, thereby strengthening our overall position in each structure.

  • For example, during year-ended December 31, we bought investment grade CMBS of $37.1 million par value, for a weighted average price of [77.53]. The resulting discount of $8.3 million improved the collateralization in our real estate CDOs.

  • Now a little bit about our provisions and impairments. Our provisions for loan losses of $17 million was comprised almost entirely of losses on real estate loans. As John indicated, $14.3 million of provisions came from the sale of two mezzanine loans after year-end. $2.1 million was added to our general reserves, and $0.6 million was added to reserves for loans previously impaired.

  • On the bank loan portfolio, positive credit trends continued, and accordingly we reduced our reserves modestly. We also wrote off a nominal amount with respect to our Legacy Leasing portfolio. We also impaired two originally rated BBB minus Legacy CMBS bonds, which were purchased in 2007 and recorded asset impairments of $16.1 million.

  • We replaced those bonds with new CDO collateral in the form of highly rated bonds purchased at discounts, and we are satisfied with the trade-off. With only one CRE loan in payment default, our credit otherwise remained stable. Our leverage ratio is 4.4 times. When we consider our Trust issuances which have a remaining term of 26 years as equity, we see our leverage drop to 3.7 times.

  • Focusing on real estate, where we were levered 2.3 times on our real estate CDOs at the end of 2009, after giving the effect to the significant debt repurchases during the year 2010, we ended the fourth quarter 1.5 times levered in our CRE portfolio. This is a decent improvement upon the projection from our December 2009 common stock offering, when we targeted a CRE leverage at the 1.7 times level.

  • Our GAAP book value for common share was [$5.99] at December 31, down $0.04 from [$6.03] at September 30. The change resulted from improved marks on our CMBS portfolio, amounting to approximately $0.27 per share. These are on bonds purchased primarily in 2009 and 2010; and are a reflection of a huge rally in that space. That improvement, coupled with an improvement in the mark-to-market of our derivatives during the period of approximately $0.06 per share gave us combined improved marks of $0.33 per share.

  • We also added $0.04 per share to book value from stock sales in our DRIP programs. These improvements in book value were offset by a net loss of approximately $0.17 per share, and of course a dividend payout of $0.25 per share.

  • Commercial real estate loans and CMBS 77%, commercial bank loans 18%, lease receivables of 3% and trading securities of 2%. With that, my formal remarks are completed, and I'll turn the call back to Jonathan Cohen.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Thanks Dave. During 2010, we really transitioned from dealing with the aftermath of the financial crisis to positioning Resource Capital for the future. We are pleased that we were able to do so with good results, reflected by the $1.15 of adjusted net income and $1 of cash dividend. Now we are at a stage to reap the benefits of the new opportunities we have already seized and to take advantage of even more opportunities we see ahead of us, as we have started to do already in 2011. We look forward to sharing the results with you in the future periods. And now with that, I thank you for your patience, and we'll open the call for any questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • And your first question comes from the line of Gabe Poggi of FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, guys.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Hi, Gabe. How are you doing?

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Good. A couple of quick questions; I think you guys said you have a $124 million of restricted cash in your two CRE CDOs?

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • That right, Gabe.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Is a portion of that $124 million is what's deployed -- or was deployed for the 25 loans that you recently -- $25 million of loans that you recently closed and then a $31 million of loans --?

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • Well, Gabe, unfortunately for us it's actually a pretty fluid situation as the real estate market recovers. We are starting to see repayments.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • So the $124 million goes to $150 million, and that's down to $124 million.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • So what we are seeing here, and it is important to note -- to mark -- to mention is that as we get closer over the next year -- you know, six months, a year, and then two or three years to the reinvestment period ending, we are actually actively looking for repayment and putting that money out for five to ten years --

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • With prepayment penalties at high rates, so that we can use the arbitrage for as long as possible on the CDOs. So the answer is, we have approximately the same amount today as we did then. Even though we've put out $25 million; we have another $30 million coming out, but I know there are things threatening to prepay, as well as we have sold stuff like the $39 million of subordinate notes for $25 million that was then put out again to make up some of the loss that we took on those properties.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right. Just recycling, okay --

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • Yes.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • When -- can you remind me, when did the reinvestment with those close on the two CRE CDOs?

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • I believe in September of this year --

  • Unidentified Corporate Participant

  • On the first one.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • On the first one, and then --

  • Unidentified Corporate Participant

  • June 25, 2012 on the second one.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Okay, you guys recently got a warehouse line from Wells. I think they purchased CMBS. Can you talk about that a little bit, at what the -- intent there is?

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • Sure, and that's a -- that's a basic AAA high-rated CMBS line so that when we see opportunities, we can buy them easily without a lot of equity capital, some of those approximately 10% to 12%, instead of holding the cash on our balance sheet.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • What kind of leverage did you get there, six, six times?

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • You can really get, I mean AAA, kind of, what they call CMBS 2.0. So you can -- you can get substantial leverage there, but we intend to probably use five to seven times leverage or eight times leverage for, you know -- for the meantime. We are using more of a shorter term opportunity. We are in negotiations now for -- with a few banks, but we'll choose one or two banks. We'll have a, when I say jumpstart, or restart of our mortgage origination business, not only are we putting out the money in the CDOs but we are also looking to have $150 million to $200 million line of credit that we will eventually originate new mortgages on, sell some to CMBS, keep the subordinate pieces, and probably as the market recovers end up securitizing.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right, okay.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • So stay tuned for that; and certainly the CMBS market is back, the bank value market's coming back, people are positioning for financing real estate, and we are pretty excited about what we are seeing out there.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Regarding the prepayments you guys had, and just call it 2010, the fourth quarter of 2010, how much of that was prepaid at par, or what was the average prepayment level if you will, par --?

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Well then, I mean, if they prepaid, they prepaid at par. And then we chose, for instance, to sell these $39 million of loan.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right, okay.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • But, you know, if you look forward --

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • (inaudible - multiple speakers) or anything like that okay.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Yes, so it's not as though they prepay and they come in, and they say -- hi, can I have a small discount? We would say -- no. And as we grow stronger as we have through 2010, as I made in my comments in my last remarks -- we've gone from defense; oh my god, a borrower is coming at us. We'll probably give him a discount and say -- hi, buddy, if you want -- if you want to mess around, we will take your property to market high, and we'll take it and we love that property.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Got you. One more question -- the $39 million of subordinate positions where you took the $14 million provision, how much more -- can you give an idea of how much more of that, in that ballpark, there is in the CRE portfolio? Is that a one-off?

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • There is not much.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you very much.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Gabe, remember, I just want to make this clear, those were positions that people bought because -- and those were bought in those -- both examples by very active real estate investors because they think the properties are -- that those loans -- [that position] was money-good. But the situation, one of the things we learn in the financial crisis is not to be involved with deals that are too big. So both of those situations were on larger deals, where we really effectively could not be the real estate owner in the end.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • So most of our loans we did on properties where we could be the owner.

  • Gabe Poggi - Analyst

  • Got you. Okay, that's helpful, thank you.

  • David Bryant - SVP, CFO

  • Thanks, Gabe.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Klaus von Stutterheim of Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

  • Klaus von Stutterheim - Analyst

  • Just as a large-picture question, with the stock yielding 13%, there is obviously some skepticism in the market as to how -- how long the dollar dividend can be maintained, and that has to have to do with fear of higher interest rates. So this is my question -- what -- and I am sure you've thought about this also, what do you think happens to the overall business as interest rates inevitably go up at some point, right?

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Sure; I appreciate the comment. First of all, people were skeptical when the stock yielded 24%.

  • Klaus von Stutterheim - Analyst

  • Yes, I know but it's --

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • So I'm enjoying the fact that people are still skeptical of 13%, and of course people are trading things such as (Inaudible) and others of 15%. So I feel like we've now gone into a new category. So I appreciate the skepticism.

  • The second thing is that if interest rates go up, we really benefit for two reasons -- $1.8 billion of our portfolio is -- almost all of it is match-funded on a LIBOR basis and very little of it have LIBOR floors at this point because they've been negotiated out over the -- over the -- as we've worked with the real estate loans over the last three years. So as real -- as LIBOR rises, we benefit as long as the economy then does not go into a tailspin.

  • Klaus von Stutterheim - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • So we are -- in fact, if you looked at, of our -- now that we are more of the equity, or we're less leveraged on the real estate portfolio, as we get fully invested, and we have approximately $850 million of loans there, just kind of dumb math, or is that -- as it rises 1%, we have approximately $300 million invested in that portfolio we will make $3 million more, for every 1% that it rises without doing any more work. If in fact, LIBOR goes back to the historic 5%, obviously we'd make $15 million more, which is thirty -- $0.30-some-odd a share.

  • Klaus von Stutterheim - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • And there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Jonathan Cohen for closing remarks.

  • Jonathan Cohen - President, CEO

  • Well I appreciate everybody's support, and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Thank you very much, and let us know if you need anything.

  • Operator

  • Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.