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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Axcelis Technologies call to discuss the company's results for the third quarter of 2026. My name is Rivka, and I'll be your coordinator for today.

  • I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, David Ryzhik, Senior Vice President and Interim Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, operator. This is David Ryzhik, Senior Vice President and Interim Chief Financial Officer. And with me today is Russell Low, President and CEO. If you have not seen a copy of our press release issued earlier today, it is available on our website. In addition, we have prepared slides accompanying today's call, and you can find those on our website as well. Playback service will also be available on our website as described in our press release.

  • Please note that comments made today about our expectations for future revenues, profits and other results are forward-looking statements under the SEC's safe harbor provision. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to the risks inherent in our business. These risks are described in detail in our annual report on Form 10-K and other SEC filings, which we urge you to review.

  • Our actual results may differ materially from our current expectations. We do not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Given the pending merger with Veeco, we will not be addressing questions related to the transaction. During this call, we will be discussing various non-GAAP financial measures. Unless otherwise noted, all income statement-related financial measures will be non-GAAP other than revenue. Please refer to our press release and accompanying materials for information regarding our non-GAAP financial results and a reconciliation to our GAAP measures.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to President and CEO, Russell Low.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our third quarter 2026 earnings call. Before I get into our quarterly results today, I'd like to share a brief leadership update. As we announced on October 27, we are pleased to welcome Jeroen Delsman as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, beginning November 12th. Jeroen brings deep financial expertise, extensive global industrial and semiconductor industry experience, a strategic mindset and proven leadership ability to the role.

  • He has a demonstrated track record of leading organizations through phases of growth and transformation, building strong teams and translating strategy into measurable results. I look forward to partnering with him as we pursue our growth opportunities and build an even stronger company through our next chapter.

  • I'd also like to thank David for his contributions and leadership while serving as interim CFO. Following Jeroen's arrival, David will transition to his new role as Senior Vice President, Corporate Development and Investor Relations, reporting directly to me. His deep knowledge of Axcelis, our markets and our business will be especially valuable as we continue to advance our strategic priorities.

  • Turning to our performance in the quarter. We continue to build momentum in the third quarter as the demand backdrop strengthened further. We reported revenue of $238 million and earnings per diluted share of $1.26, which exceeded our expectations due to higher revenue and lower operating expenses more than offsetting lower gross margins due to foreign exchange headwinds. These results reflect sequential improvement in systems delivered, combined with another quarterly record in CS&I revenue.

  • As expected, systems growth in the quarter was driven by an improvement in power and memory markets, partially offset by a relatively small sequential decline in general mature following a strong second quarter. CS&I continues to exhibit strong momentum, supported by a growing installed base, higher customer utilization of our tools in the field and the continued growth in our service contract and upgrade offerings. CS&I continues to represent an important driver of our long-term growth and profitability across market cycles.

  • System bookings grew significantly quarter-over-quarter with our book-to-bill coming in at 1.5. This further supports our view that the end markets we serve are strengthening and that we are entering 2027 with positive momentum. Turning to our systems revenue by segment. Sales to mature node applications accounted for approximately 78% of system shipments with memory and advanced logic making up the balance of our sales.

  • Now let me review our trends by end market. Beginning with Power, sales from silicon carbide applications grew notably on a sequential basis. This reflects broad-based improvements in demand, including customer pull-ins in Europe and Asia. Combined with high utilization rates and increased customer engagement, this reinforces our view of a strengthening demand environment. We're also seeing an expanding range of applications driving silicon carbide adoption beyond traditional automotive, industrial and solar markets.

  • AI-driven power requirements and data center investments are emerging as additional demand drivers. At the same time, declining wafer costs are improving the economics of silicon carbide across a broader range of applications, including consumer and commercial products. As a result of the investments we have made over the past few years in our technology, we are now well positioned to capitalize on these dynamics and the increasing adoption of more advanced device architectures and customers transition to 200-millimeter silicon carbide wafers.

  • Our wafer handling technology enables demanding high-temperature implant applications, while ongoing improvements in cost of ownership deliver value to customers and expand opportunities for our CS&I business. We're also beginning to see the benefits of our early investments in the precision and process control capabilities required to enable low-cost superjunction adoption. This is translating into growing commercial traction with multiple Tier 1 customers selecting our Purion XE family equipped with advanced channeling technology.

  • In our other Power markets, third quarter sales declined modestly following a strong second quarter, but remained elevated compared to the prior year run rate. Demand continues to benefit from improving utilization across automotive, industrial, consumer and data center applications. In silicon IGBT specifically, we're also seeing growing interest in our new proton implant solution with multiple orders for the Purion VXE LT+. Proton implantation is increasingly important in high-performance silicon IGBTs, helping improve power efficiency and device reliability.

  • We're also seeing growing interest in our solutions for power management ICs or PMICs, supported in part by increasing data center demand. In General Mature, sales declined modestly on a sequential basis, but remained consistent with levels seen throughout 2026. More importantly, bookings showed strong growth on a sequential basis following several years of softer demand supported by rising utilization rates and renewed customer investment.

  • North America was a particularly strong contributor, reflecting increased customer investment, including capacity expansion plans associated with AI-related demand. General Mature continues to represent a large market opportunity for Axcelis given the high implant intensity of these applications and our ability to address a wide range of customer requirements with our broad portfolio of high energy, high current and medium current platforms. Our recently introduced Purion H6 High Current system further strengthens our competitive position in this market, and we are seeing increased customer interest as investment activity recovers.

  • Turning to our Advanced Logic market. We shipped the follow-on system we highlighted last quarter for materials modification application supporting 2-nanometer production. We continue to work closely with leading customers on advanced node technology road maps where 2-nanometers and future process technologies are creating additional opportunities for material modification applications. In memory, the industry demand environment remains robust, supported by accelerating investments in DRAM and HBM capacity to address growing AI-related requirements.

  • We are seeing momentum in the engagements with our memory customers in Korea as well as with our customers outside of Korea. In fact, building on our strong presence in Korea, we recently celebrated the groundbreaking of a new manufacturing facility in Pyeongtaek, representing a $35 million investment in our global production capabilities. We are especially pleased to mark the occasion alongside representatives from our major Korean customers, underscoring the strong relationships we have built in the region and our long-term commitment to supporting their growth.

  • The approximately 200,000 square foot facility will consolidate and expand our Korean manufacturing operations and enhance our ability to respond quickly and with more flexibility to meet customer requirements. Production is expected to begin in the second half of 2028. This investment represents an important step in expanding our global operations infrastructure to support our customers' long-term growth plans.

  • Now let me wrap up my thoughts and provide our perspective as we exit 2026 and move into 2027. While the broader demand environment is clearly improving, we are particularly pleased to see our strategy of continuing to invest through the recent digestion period beginning to yield results. Our next-generation technologies, including our Purion H6 High Current implanter for General Mature, our new high-energy proton implant solution for silicon IGBTs, our advanced channeling technology for silicon carbide and several other technologies are gaining traction as customers' investment recovers.

  • In addition, we have seen increased interest in our highest energy solution, the Purion XEmax, and we also recently expanded our engagement with a leading European research institution with the placement of a medium current system to complement our existing high current system already installed, expanding our portfolio there. As we look ahead, we are increasingly encouraged by the broadening recovery across our end markets and expect growth in 2027 across Memory, Power and General Mature. This outlook is supported by continued investment in DRAM and HBM capacity recovering conditions in silicon carbide and growing activity across General Mature applications.

  • Higher customer utilization, increased bookings and expanding investment plans further reinforce our confidence in the demand environment. At the same time, our CS&I business continues to provide a growing foundation for revenue and profitability. We also look forward to completing our pending combination with Veeco Instruments and the potential to create a stronger company with expanded capabilities, broader growth opportunities and long-term value for our shareholders.

  • The parties continue to work constructively towards obtaining the required regulatory clearance in China. Given the upcoming expiration of our current HSR clearance, we also plan to promptly make a new HSR submission. We now expect the merger to close by the end of the first quarter of 2027. Finally, I want to thank our employees, customers, partners and shareholders for all their continued support and confidence in Axcelis.

  • With that, let me turn the call over to Dave for a closer look at our financial results and outlook.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Russell, and good morning, everyone. Let me now start with the financial details of the third quarter before turning to our outlook for the fourth quarter. Third quarter revenue was $238 million, consisting of system revenue of $145 million and CS&I revenue of $93 million. Beginning with our third quarter results, we are no longer separately disclosing the Services component of revenue and gross margin. Services represents a small percentage of our broader CS&I business and on a stand-alone basis is not representative of the overall performance of CS&I. Accordingly, we believe presenting these amounts within our consolidated results provides a more meaningful view of our business.

  • Now turning to our revenue by geography. Revenue in China remained flat from Q2 at 46%. Korea was our second largest revenue-generating region at 18% of our total revenues. In our other regions, the United States was 13%; Europe, 12%; Taiwan was 2% and Japan was 1%. The remaining 8% of revenue came from the rest of the world. Bookings were $222 million, the highest quarterly bookings since the fourth quarter of 2023. As a result, our backlog exiting the quarter increased to $531 million.

  • Now let me share some additional detail on our results. Gross margin was 41.2%, below our outlook of 43%, primarily due to the sharp strengthening of the Korean won relative to the U.S. dollar. Given our growing presence in Korea, this presented a headwind to our gross margin. This was partially offset by a corresponding FX gain in other income. Third quarter operating expenses were $58.5 million, below our outlook of $62 million, primarily due to lower-than-expected fringe costs as well as slower-than-expected onboarding of new hires. Tying it all together, our operating margin was 16.6%.

  • Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $44 million and adjusted EBITDA margin was 18.5%. Other income was $7 million, higher on a sequential basis due primarily to the aforementioned foreign exchange gains. Our tax rate was 16%. In the quarter, we benefited from the reversal of tax positions resulting from an audit closed in the period. However, these discrete audit-related items have been excluded from our non-GAAP effective tax rate.

  • And finally, third quarter earnings per diluted share was $1.26, exceeding our outlook of $1.11. Free cash flow for the third quarter was $38 million, and we exited the third quarter with a strong balance sheet, consisting of $615 million of cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities on hand. This includes $143 million of long-term securities.

  • With that, let me discuss our fourth quarter outlook. We expect revenue of approximately $275 million. We anticipate the increase to be primarily driven by sequential improvement in our Power and General Mature markets. As we look beyond the fourth quarter, we currently anticipate revenue in the first quarter of 2027 to be relatively consistent with fourth quarter levels. This is despite the seasonally lower CS&I revenue we typically experience in the first quarter.

  • We expect fourth quarter gross margin of approximately 42.5%. We expect operating expenses of approximately $65 million. The sequential increase primarily reflects annual merit increases, continued investment in R&D, higher fringe costs and an increase in variable compensation associated with an improvement in our business. Adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter is expected to be approximately $56 million. We anticipate a tax rate of approximately 15%. And finally, we estimate net earnings per diluted share of approximately $1.50.

  • In summary, we're exiting 2026 with strong momentum, positioning Axcelis for another year of growth in 2027. At the same time, we remain focused on investing in the key growth opportunities ahead of us while maintaining discipline on cost. Taken together, these priorities, along with our robust balance sheet provide a strong foundation as we prepare to merge with Veeco and position us to deliver attractive long-term growth, profitability and value creation for our shareholders.

  • Before I turn it over to Q&A, I'd like to add that it has been a pleasure to lead our talented finance organization in an interim capacity. I look forward to continuing my engagement with investors and analysts while also leading the integration planning and execution for our pending merger with Veeco and our broader corporate development efforts. I also look forward to working with Jeroen and introducing him to the investment community after he joins. It's an exciting time at the company, and I believe we have the right strategy and talented team to capitalize on the opportunities ahead.

  • With that, operator, we are ready to take questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Christian Schwab, Craig-Hallum.

  • Christian Schwab - Senior Research Analyst

  • Congrats on the solid results and outlook. Can we just get an exact percentage on Memory? I'm just trying to figure out how Memory business did last quarter, Q2 to Q3?

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah, Christian, it was about 20% of our total system sales.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. And I think we did actually have one NAND system in the quarter, but the majority of all of our memory revenue is DRAM.

  • Christian Schwab - Senior Research Analyst

  • Great. And then the makeup, I guess, maybe you said it, but I don't have it written down. Just on the extremely strong bookings that you had in the quarter, can you give greater clarity of specific applications or geographies that that's heading to?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, sure. So I would say that it was a broad-based recovery in bookings. So we're seeing continued strength in our bookings across all of our market segments and also across each of our regions as well. So I think that the biggest uptick was in General Mature, and we're seeing that, obviously, in China. It's always been a strong market for us, but we're also now seeing that in Europe and also in the U.S., which is very encouraging. So that's an example of what's happening in General Mature.

  • Power, I think Power is also broad-based by geography as well. The customers in different geographies are slightly focused on different items. So some are looking at 6-inch to 8-inch transition. They're looking from planar to trench transitions, while others are just ramping what they have. But it is broad-based at this stage geographically and across our end markets.

  • Christian Schwab - Senior Research Analyst

  • Great. And then just lastly, do you guys have some type of expectation for calendar '27 yet for the combined company or by market? Or is it a little bit early, and we'll hear from you in January?

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah. Yes, Christian, a little early. You'll hear more from us on our Q4 call. But we talked about Q1 revenue being relatively similar to Q4, and that's despite CS&I being seasonally lower. So you can use that Q1 as a starting point. And as Russell said in his prepared remarks, really, we do expect now Memory, Power and General Mature to all grow next year. How much? I think, is a little too early to tell, but we do see a growth year next year. And CS&I as well, I think continued growth there as well.

  • Christian Schwab - Senior Research Analyst

  • Great. Fantastic. No other questions. Thank you.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks, Chris.

  • Operator

  • Jed Dorsheimer, William Blair.

  • Jed Dorsheimer - Analyst

  • Hi, thanks. Thanks for taking my question. Just I guess, first one -- and first off, congratulations, too, of operating well in a difficult environment. I guess first question as a follow-up to Christian. It sounds like silicon carbide kind of returning back to growth as utilization is absorbed. Is there anything -- I know that there's the shift between planar and trench plays into your -- is going to be a benefit to you. Is there anything with moving to higher voltage such as a 2.3 or 3.3 kilovolt for a solid-state transformer that requires additional tools, does that necessitate additional high-energy implants? Or any color around that would be useful. And then I have a couple of follow-ups.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, sure, Jed. Thanks. It's Russell.

  • So yes, so we have seen 4 consecutive quarters of bookings rising in Power, and we are now seeing that coming through into revenue. So it's definitely -- Power is definitely recovering on the macro scale. Although I would say that year-over-year, we're still slightly down on 2025. I just can't give you that color there, but we are seeing strengthening in the silicon -- in Power.

  • Talking about silicon carbide specifically, as you know, obviously, the killer application is EV vehicles. And we are seeing outside of the U.S., there's still a healthy number of EV vehicles being sold. Those EV vehicles are getting more and more silicon carbide content, not only because they're taking on the traction conversion, but they're also taking on additional applications as well, such as the onboard charger and DC-DC. And I expect that to accelerate as the suppliers to the car manufacturers start to basically produce modules.

  • They have a module, which is a 3-in-1, for example, where you get traction inverter, you get onboard charger and DC-DC all in one module. That module is cheaper. It's smaller, it's lighter. And from a manufacturing point of view, it's a lot less complex to build around. So we're definitely seeing EVs doing very well.

  • The next kind of piece we're still seeing doing well is solar and wind turbines and all the battery backup systems, that's working out well. The 800-volt stuff is actually very interesting. So I think we've talked before about 800 volts. I think it was developed for the car industry initially so that you can have really super charging. And I kind of consider the 800-volt architecture in EV being basically EV 2.0. It makes -- cuts the charge time by a factor of 2, which is now getting really close to that kind of like that chasm that people want to cross regarding kind of concerns about charging rates and distance.

  • And then that 800-volt technology is equally now making its way into data centers. So I think you're seeing that silicon carbide have a real role to play in data centers, but it's going to be sitting between the grid and the rack. So it's going to take the grid voltages, the kilovolts, bring it down to the 800 volts. And I think we're seeing some opportunity there. Obviously, it's not as big as the EV market, but it's certainly growing very quickly. So it's a very interesting area to be watching.

  • Jed Dorsheimer - Analyst

  • That's helpful color. Thanks. I guess for my follow-up, two-part question. One, did you mention the share of China in the bookings? And then two, just in Memory, did you -- for DRAM specifically, is that all high bandwidth? Or is it traditional? Or are you not able to tell on that? And in that build-out, are there any examples where you're the lead in terms or are you second source there?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Okay, I'll let David quickly look up what the percentage of China bookings were in Q3. I think that was your first question, right, Jed?

  • Jed Dorsheimer - Analyst

  • So that is correct.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, I'll give you a couple more seconds. So I'll start answering the second one. So I think the second question was the build-out of memory and how much of that was high-bandwidth memory and then what do we think essentially could be our opportunities in memory. Is that correct?

  • Jed Dorsheimer - Analyst

  • That is correct.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Okay. So basically, so I'm kind of thinking about -- so the vast majority of our revenue is high bandwidth memory. We did have one NAND tool. I don't consider it a trend. There really is not a lot going on in NAND right now for implant. Obviously, when they start doing more wafer starts, that's interesting. But right now, they're focused on mostly more and more layers. So it's all about DRAM and HBM.

  • As you know, some companies have been talking about not having sufficient capacity all the way through '28 and onwards and the pricing has gone up in this supply-demand crunch. We've historically done well in Korea. I actually think we're starting to do really quite well outside of Korea as well. So I think we're now getting more share of the whole DRAM market.

  • And then when I kind of look about what are the opportunities, I think if you look at the really big manufacturers, the top 3 or so, they're looking to add up above 1 million wafer starts a month over the next 4 to 5 years, right? So that's a huge amount of capacity that's been presented to the public. And these are like mega fabs. Some of these fabs like 600,000 wafer starts a month on their own. That's just one customer.

  • So then you say, okay, what is the opportunity? I think historically, we've said it's about $150 million to $200 million of implant equipment required to do 100,000 wafer starts per month. So now you're kind of seeing the size of this market opportunity in the next four to five years. And then I think your final part was also, okay, how much do you think you might get of that?

  • I think we do well in Korea, and we'll continue to do well in Korea, and we're obviously always looking to get additional market share. I think we begin to see outside of Korea, our memory business start to actually show strength. So we're actually pretty upbeat about memory.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah, Jed. And just to answer your question earlier on China. So on an overall revenue perspective for Q3, China was 46%. And you can think about bookings, system bookings as being close to that number, mid-40s.

  • Jed Dorsheimer - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you guys.I appreciate it. I'll jump back in the queue.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Craig Ellis, B. Riley Securities.

  • Craig Ellis - Equity Analyst

  • Yeah, thanks for taking the question guys, and congratulations on the upturn in the business. Given the 50% increase in bookings quarter-on-quarter, I'll start there with a different line of inquiry than this before. And the question is this, Russell, can you talk about the linearity of bookings through the third quarter? What did you see by end markets? And can you characterize the strength of bookings fourth quarter to date versus what you saw through the third quarter and exiting the third quarter?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think looking at the Q3 bookings, as you saw, the book-to-bill went to a healthy 1.5, which was good. We did talk about across the segment -- the market segments that deliver the most revenue for us, General Mature, Power and Memory, that was a pretty good spread, although we did say there was a particular uptick in General Mature. So the largest gain in bookings was seen in General Mature, which we've kind of talked about the life cycle of a recovery.

  • It goes from -- you start to see utilization rates go up, you start to see CS&I spending in spares go up, then you start talking to customers about forecast, then the POs come, then the calls to pull in come and then the revenue comes. I think General Mature, we're seeing the bookings coming in. So we're confident that we continue -- that it is strengthening into the end of the year and into 2027.

  • We obviously talked about Power, and we've mentioned that, that was actually slightly further ahead. We had 4 consecutive quarters of improved bookings in Power, and now we're seeing that come through in the revenue. And obviously, we're saying that Memory, we believe, will continue to stay strong. We're expecting to see higher Memory revenue in 2027. And we're watching very, very carefully the availability of kind of greenfield clean room space because clearly, today, our customers are often 4-wall constrained. So as that capacity starts to come on board, that's when we start to see more of our opportunities going into memory.

  • Craig Ellis - Equity Analyst

  • So the signs there as you're walking through just the sequence of events that go from engagement to orders to revenue. It sounds like what you're saying, Russell, is that the momentum on the order side, fourth quarter to date is continuing or strengthening from what you saw in the third quarter as -- is that right before I move on to the follow-up question?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, that's actually -- that's a fair point, Craig. So yes, sorry, I missed your first part of the question. But yes, I'd say that it is a trend. We actually believe we will continue to see growth into 2027 and the bookings will reflect that.

  • Craig Ellis - Equity Analyst

  • Right. Okay. Thank you. And then a question and a clarification. The question is a stellar quarter from CS&I, $92 million, I think, by far, the best you've ever done. The question is, as customers sometimes add capacity to respond to higher utilization with CS&I before their major equipment orders and installations can you characterize how you'd expect the general arc of CS&I to trend through the year and next year? And then the clarification is what did you bake in on the FX side to fourth quarter's gross margin guide? Thank you.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes. So on the CS&I question, I think at this point, when we look at 2027 -- well, first off, for 2026, certainly, CS&I has grown faster than what we expect for systems certainly. For 2027, it could be reverse where systems grows faster than CS&I, just coming from a lower base. That's number one. But we still do expect CS&I to grow next year as utilization rates are strong. And even if there are new fabs, I mean, that's still an opportunity for more spares, more consumables, upgrades, et cetera. So we're in a pretty good position on the CS&I side.

  • As far as FX, as what's dialed into Q4, we don't expect the kind of headwind that we saw from the FX on the Korean won side in Q3. It was a pretty sharp move in the Korean won. And as you know, Craig, we've been increasing our presence in Korea over the past several years. But we don't expect that kind of impact in Q4.

  • Craig Ellis - Equity Analyst

  • Thanks, David. Thanks, Russell. Good bye.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks, Craig.

  • Operator

  • Duksan Jang, Bank of America Securities.

  • Duksan Jang - Analyst

  • Hi, yes, thank you for taking the question. Just going back to the Memory point you brought on earlier. Obviously, the market is very strong. You said you have very good presence in Korea. But then last quarter, I think you also mentioned some wins at the North American customer. So if you could have any more details around that, that would be helpful. Thank you.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah. We're not going to comment on any particular customer. But as Russell said, we're seeing strength in Korea and seeing strength outside of Korea. And it's not just rising tide, Duksan. It's -- we are investing in technology. We're delivering solutions. We're engaging with customers, and that's ultimately what matters to customers most. And so we feel pretty good about our position and the investments we've made. And we think that's going to translate into wins.

  • Duksan Jang - Analyst

  • Got it. And then for next year, you also said that, obviously, Memory continues to remain strong, along with the other end markets, but then CS&I comes down as a percentage of mix. So how should we think about the margin profile as obviously, CS&I tended to be accretive and the Memory more dilutive?

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes. So there are a number of things that work for next year. So there's mix. And so mix within systems can vary, right? So Memory, as you know, has a lower than corporate margin on the system side. Although we still really like the Memory business because it has a nice CS&I attached. So over the long term, that's a profitable business. So that's, generally speaking, lower than Power and General Mature. There's also mix between system and CS&I as we discussed. And then there's a mix within CS&I.

  • So a little too early to predict and determine the mix for next year. I think at least we do expect a higher mix of overall systems versus CS&I next year. We do expect overall volume to be higher. So that helps us on the gross margin generally from factory absorption. We're also focused on a number of different initiatives, company-specific that we can work on to drive more gross margin.

  • So improving our -- the cost of our systems, improving manufacturing efficiency. And by the way, the more you innovate, the more value you can drive for customers. So we are focused on a number of initiatives plus higher volume. At this point, we would expect on a year-over-year basis, gross margins would be higher than in 2026. But we'll provide a little bit more color on our next call.

  • Duksan Jang - Analyst

  • Great. Congrats on the results.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Denis Pyatchanin, Needham & Company.

  • Denis Pyatchanin - Analyst

  • Thank you very much. Good morning, Russell and David. Maybe we could perhaps start with some sort of outlook for 2027, whether qualitative or quantitative. Maybe you can tell us about your visibility into next year. How far does it go and perhaps discuss some of the key drivers for revenue between DRAM, General Mature and then the two Power segments, please?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Sure. So I think about the major revenue contributors in the near term for us, it's Power, it's Memory, it's General Mature and it's obviously CS&I. So we talked about the strength in CS&I. We expect that to continue to grow. We kind of said it wasn't expected to grow at the same rate of the systems. So let's now kind of talk a little bit about Memory, Power and General Mature. So think about Memory, the story for us right now is all about DRAM. We're not expecting NAND to play a significant role for us next year. And we're expecting a year-over-year improvement in DRAM.

  • I think we should point out that 2026 is actually looking like a good year for DRAM. And so -- and you can say, well it's -- and it's a year-over-year gain versus 2025, but 2025 was a relatively quiet year. But 1 quarter of revenue, the first quarter of revenue in '26 was more than the entire revenue of DRAM in 2025. So kind of gives you an indication that 2026 is strong.

  • We do expect that to continue to strengthen into 2027. But I would say, keep an eye on the fab. So there's a lot of fabs being built. They're being pulled forward very, very aggressively, and that's going to be the key to a lot of the DRAM going into new fabs. Obviously, there's still some fabs being filled up, but that's kind of the story on Memory.

  • Regarding Power, we're actually still seeing silicon carbide and silicon doing well. We talked a little bit about the opportunities in IGBTs with proton implantation. That's a good opportunity for us in high energy. But we're also seeing a lot of opportunities in silicon carbide and for the reasons I was talking to Jang about a moment ago about the opportunities in 800 volts, the next generation of electric cars.

  • General Mature. General Mature has always been a very broad category, right? It kind of -- it can be many, many things. But it's all of those chips in every one of the units you see around, they're in your phone, they're in your fridge, they're in -- they're everywhere. And we're seeing that particularly ramp up. So we're expecting to see basically continued strength in memory and CS&I and continued recovery in General Mature and Power.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes, Denis, I'd also add that it's not just a rising tide, but we are -- as we've said, we've invested in a number of products. We're seeing increased interest in our new high current H6 for General Mature channeling for silicon carbide and a number of other areas that we've invested in, we are seeing increased customer engagement. So that's also a factor in our view for next year.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. We're actually really pleased and obviously a strategy to continue to invest in new products and services during the kind of the recent digestion period so that we could work with our customers, develop these new technologies. And now as they ramp, we are seeing the benefits of that strategy play out.

  • Denis Pyatchanin - Analyst

  • I appreciate the detailed answer. For my second one, maybe we can discuss an otherwise hot topic for this quarter, which is some equipment companies are being impacted by component shortages. Maybe you can discuss if you're seeing any pressure in terms of components, any particular ones that may be hard to come by for you and any impact you may see on revenue or gross margins because of this?

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes, Denis, like other companies, we are seeing tightness in the supply chain. But for our fourth quarter, we are not constrained. And I give credit to our operations team. I think it's a world-class operations team. We've been through this before, and we invested in inventory ahead of time, as you know. And so that's helping us now. And so we'll see about 2027. We're monitoring supply chain very closely. But for Q4, we are not constrained.

  • Denis Pyatchanin - Analyst

  • Thank you. That's it for me.

  • Operator

  • David Duley, Steelhead Securities.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Congratulations on a nice quarter and recovery in the business. I guess in your prepared presentation on slide number six in the General Mature bucket, you talked about North American activity strengthening, including AI-related capacity expansion. And it seems like in the current quarter, the General Mature area was responsible for a big spike in the orders. So I'm just kind of wondering what exactly are the applications that's driving North American General Mature bookings? Is it like trailing edge foundry and logic? Or maybe just help us understand specifically why we're seeing the spike in orders in this area.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. So thanks, David. It's Russell. So I think what you're seeing is that -- so data centers were driving advanced compute, the GPUs, the memory, the superfast stuff. But now as they're starting to build out these data centers for AI, you're seeing that all of the supporting infrastructure need as well. A lot of that is basically relatively mature from a device performance standpoint, silicon devices.

  • I would say, just as a caveat, the technology being used in the implants to support these applications are anything but Mature. But I think you're kind of just seeing it kind of like -- so you're seeing lots of -- we always said before, General Mature is a very broad category, but lots of devices that are being used, I would say, to support the growth in data centers.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • You're kind of seeing the spillover of all the other parts that go next to the GPUs and the CPUs that are not --

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • That's kind of how I'm looking at it. Yes, that's kind of I'm looking at, David. It's basically a spillover. Plus they also have gone through the digestion anyway. I mean they were already getting tight in supply. So all the other applications we're going to be demanding extra supply. But then on top of that, you've got the data center demand. So it's kind of a recovery with extra demand.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Yes. A lot of the GPUs and CPUs are built on advanced nodes where perhaps the companion chips and a lot of the other things that you're exposed to are built on 7 nanometers and 10 nanometers and 28 nanometers. And so basically, you're seeing a spillover in demand from the data center into the General Mature bucket.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • That's right. Yes.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • And do you expect this to be a sustainable trend throughout '27 and '28? Or is this more just a onetime event?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think we're going to see it being a sustained growth. I think we had a digestion period anyway just without data centers, we were in a digestion period, and we were coming out through that anyway, whether it be for automotive, consumer, we were starting to see that recover anyway, just kind of seen in days of inventory on hand. And then this is obviously additive. But I do think you're going to see -- I think the genie in the bottle for AI is out and I think now all of these additional devices, whether it's your phone, whether it's your fridge, are all going to be interacting with these data centers. So the communications components, the local stuff, I think that's all going to benefit from having these very large data centers running AI.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah. And then on top of that, you think about robotics, Dave, over the longer term, that's going to drive General Mature as well.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Okay. And my second question is on the Memory segment. You've outlined how there's really only 3 major Memory guys, but how the top 3 are adding like 1 million wafer starts per month. I suspect that's a much higher number than they've added in the last couple of years. Maybe you could help us with understanding as far as the industry goes, how much more capacity is being added in '27 and '28 versus '26. And since you highlighted how much the industry is going to add, you probably know what your Memory segment is going to do. Could you take a stab at the growth rate of that segment for 2027? Thanks.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes. So we're not going to give a concrete number for Memory for next year, and I'll let Russell weigh in on maybe the bigger picture dynamics. But we do expect Memory to grow next year from '26 levels.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. I think what you've seen in the last couple of years, '25 and '26 are people rejiggering fabs. We actually have seen some, like, NAND fabs or otherwise getting converted into DRAM. We've seen some of the lower performing devices get outsourced or given to other companies, which is another kind of like trickle down to some of the foundries. They get some of the non-leading edge from some of the big guys.

  • But ultimately, as we look at Memory, it's been more about trying to get the best out of what you have. We're kind of in four-wall constrained. Maybe there's a couple of extensions added to some fabs. But what you're seeing now, if you kind of read about this, these are mega plants being built, and they are -- they're huge, right? And they're just waiting for that investment to basically come online.

  • So I'd say that's kind of moving -- building -- tools between buildings, trying to increase the productivity, driving the uptime, all those wonderful things too. Now there really is a brand-new big mega fab to be filled up. And I think you're going to start to see those mega fabs opening their doors to new equipment starting in 2027, but they're going to be in phases, right? It's going to be a number of wafer starts added every 6 months as they build out these kind of what I consider mega fabs.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Maybe let me ask it a different way then, is the amount of clean room space coming online in 2027 is much -- in the Memory space is much greater than it was in 2026, right, because of what you just highlighted, right, in 2026, there were jiggering fabs around to try to get more output out of the current footprint. But in '27, the footprint is going to expand dramatically. So would you expect the growth rate to accelerate in '27 versus '26 in the Memory space?

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • So we've definitely said that 2027, we believe, will be an up year for us in memory. And quite honestly, we're expecting this year to be our best ever year on DRAM. So there's kind of a data point. prior in -- I think it's 2023, we managed to achieve $90 million in DRAM. This year, we're going to surpass that, and we're expecting to surpass that again next year.

  • The reason I caution about the capacity coming online, it comes online in phases, right? It might come online in 30,000 wafer start chunks. And it might happen every 6 months, they add another one, another one, another one. They're going to be building this thing out in phases. They're not going to wait for the entire factory to be complete and then fill it all at the same time. There really is so little supply out there. They're trying to bring it online as quickly as possible.

  • So they're building the clean rooms first. They're trying to get the machines in there, but they're going to be bringing it on, go to the next phase, bring it on. So I think you're going to see -- I don't know if it's going to be linear or not, but I think you're going to see a relatively consistent addition of capacity every 6 months by some of these customers.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Final question for me is, could you just talk about the competitive environment? And you've done really well in the silicon carbide space and always had a strong position in Memory. What is your -- what's the competitive environment versus Applied? And are they starting to come into some of your markets? Or maybe just describe what's going on in the dynamics.

  • Russell Low - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Well, so we have multiple competitors, and we always have done, right? We've got competitors in the U.S., competitors in Japan, Taiwan. China is now developing their own domestic supply for ion implanters. And I think we're always going to do what we've always done, right? We're going to work really closely with our customers, and we're going to try and resolve their most valuable problems in a really differentiated valuable way, right? So that's where all the innovation comes from.

  • So we talked about all these new products we're developing. Those have been developed with customers, and that's where we're gaining revenue is by working with these customers on these new solutions that really add value. So I think that what's going to happen is we're going to continue to be a full portfolio, full-service supplier to our customers, and we're going to continue to be investing heavily in R&D such that we can solve their problems and come out with new technologies, and that will help grow gross margin and market share. So that's what we'll be doing.

  • David Duley - Analyst

  • Thank you. Thanks, Dave.

  • Operator

  • I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to David Ryzhik for closing remarks.

  • David Ryzhik - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy, and Interim Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and your interest in Axcelis. Operator, you can close the call.

  • Operator

  • Okay, this concludes the presentation. Thank you for your participation in today's conference. You may now disconnect. Have a good day.